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Interview · 2 Jul 2026

LBC interview with Andrew Marr: politics done differently, tax, welfare and Number 10 North

Andy Burnham, MP for Makerfield, Labour leadership candidate

Video: YouTube: LBC (official channel). Retrieved 7 Oct 2026.

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Partly supported60% confidence
“I brought forward a review into grooming gangs when I was first elected as mayor in 2017 and I had to work with the conservative leader of Bolton and the Libdem leader of Stockport.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said that when first elected Mayor of Greater Manchester in 2017 he set up a review into grooming gangs and had to work with the Conservative leader of Bolton and the Lib Dem leader of Stockport.

He commissioned the child sexual exploitation assurance review in 2017, after the BBC's The Betrayed Girls aired on 3 July 2017. But the Conservative leader of Bolton took office in 2019 and the Lib Dem leader of Stockport in May 2022, so that cross-party working came during the review, not when it was set up.
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Supported70% confidence
“In Greater Manchester I've said place first not party first problem solving not point scoring long-term not short-term.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said that in Greater Manchester he had promoted 'place first, not party first; problem solving, not point scoring; long-term, not short-term'.

As mayor he described his approach as 'place-first, rather than politics or party-first', and was reported in 2023 as working with Conservative ministers.
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Can't verify30% confidence
“I didn't see that done in the Blair and Brown years”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said he did not see the Labour whip used to punish MPs over a vote of conscience in the Blair and Brown years.

No record was found that sets out whether the whip was ever withdrawn over a vote of conscience under Blair and Brown, so the claim could not be checked.
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Supported75% confidence
“it flooded seriously in 2015 and again in 2025.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said Makerfield flooded seriously in 2015 and again in 2025.

Millingford Brook at Ashton-in-Makerfield reached its highest recorded level on 26 December 2015. On 1 January 2025, 37 houses in Ashton flooded when the brook overflowed, and Greater Manchester reported about 190 properties flooded inside across Platt Bridge, Leigh and Ashton.
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Supported75% confidence
“We've got an illegal rubbish tip that hasn't been moved again.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said an illegal rubbish tip in Makerfield had still not been removed.

About 25,000 tonnes of illegally dumped waste on Bolton House Road, Bickershaw, in the Makerfield constituency, was still on site in late May 2026. The Government had committed to clean-up assessments in March 2026.
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Partly supported60% confidence
“if you look at something like water, where the shareholders never lose, the public never win because they're paying ever higher bills, but that money isn't going into infrastructure to benefit them. It's going out to the shareholders”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said water customers pay ever higher bills while the money goes to shareholders rather than into infrastructure.

Bills are rising: the average water bill in England and Wales went up from £480 to £603 in April 2025. Companies have paid large dividends, about £1.8bn a year on one academic estimate. But money has also gone into infrastructure: Ofwat says it has overseen £108bn of investment since privatisation and approved £104bn for 2025 to 2030. So 'isn't going into infrastructure' goes too far.
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Supported80% confidence
“But there is some room within that manifesto for movement on tax.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said Labour's 2024 manifesto leaves some room for changes to tax.

Labour's 2024 manifesto ruled out raising National Insurance, the basic, higher or additional rates of income tax, and VAT, and capped corporation tax at 25%. Other taxes, such as business rates, were not locked in this way.
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Supported85% confidence
“we can cut business rates for pubs and I've proposed a 20% cut”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said he had proposed a 20% cut in business rates for pubs.

In early June 2026 he pledged to cut business rates for pubs by 20% if he became Prime Minister. The pledge was reported on 5 June 2026.
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Supported95% confidence
“I was in the treasury.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said he had worked in the Treasury.

He was Chief Secretary to the Treasury in the Brown government, one of his posts in government between 2007 and 2010.
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Supported70% confidence
“I ran the department of health and we had a very healthy health. It was tight, but we had a very healthy set of finances.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said that when he ran the Department of Health its finances were tight but healthy.

He was Health Secretary from 2009 to 2010. Analysis of health authority board papers found the NHS in England was on course for an overall surplus of about £1.5bn in 2009/10, with some cost pressures, which fits 'tight' but 'healthy'.
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Supported75% confidence
“I've run Greater Manchester, the fastest growing city region in the country for a decade.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said that for a decade he ran Greater Manchester, the fastest-growing city region in the country.

Analysis of ONS data found Greater Manchester was the UK's fastest-growing sub-regional (ITL2) economy from 2015 to 2023, at 3.1% a year against 1.5% for the UK. That analysis was published by his own combined authority. Centre for Cities also names it among the fastest-growing big city economies. He had been mayor since May 2017, about nine years.
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Supported80% confidence
“businesses are also paying too much. And that is certainly true of energy.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said UK businesses pay too much for energy.

Government figures for 2024 show the UK had the highest industrial electricity prices of all IEA members with data, both with and without taxes. It was also highest among EU comparisons in all but one size band.
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Supported90% confidence
“what I've done in Greater Manchester is something that might be looked at more broadly, free bus travel for 16 to 18 year olds”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said that in Greater Manchester he brought in free bus travel for 16- to 18-year-olds.

As mayor he launched Our Pass, which gave 16- to 18-year-olds free travel on all Greater Manchester buses from 1 September 2019, for a £10 administration fee.
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Supported70% confidence
“If you build more council homes, you can bring down the housing benefit bill.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said building more council homes would bring down the housing benefit bill.

Cebr research for the National Housing Federation and Shelter estimated that building 90,000 social homes a year would save £4.5bn in housing benefit over 30 years. It is a modelled estimate.
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Supported85% confidence
“there is already a proposal for a government digital campus close to Manchester Piccadilly.”

Claim checkedAndy Burnham said there was already a proposal for a government digital campus near Manchester Piccadilly, where he intended to base Number 10 North.

The Government Property Agency's Manchester Digital Campus, for about 7,000 civil servants, is planned on the former Central Retail Park, about 500m from Manchester Piccadilly station. The Treasury approved its outline business case in March 2026.
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Procedural claims (the speaker's own dates, petition counts, who said what, background), clear slips of the tongue, and words read out from someone else. They stay on the record and do not count in Accuracy.

Pending“I'm still in a contest.”Procedural: His own position in the leadership contest, as scene-setting. · LBC interview with Andrew Marr: politics done differently, tax, welfare and Number 10 North, 2 Jul 2026
Pending“the speech I gave at the count in Makerfield when I said I see this as a last chance to change particularly for the Labour party.”Procedural: Recalls his own earlier speech, as background. · LBC interview with Andrew Marr: politics done differently, tax, welfare and Number 10 North, 2 Jul 2026
Pending“I'm going to set out a new direction for the country and I did that on Monday.”Procedural: His own diary: the date of his speech. · LBC interview with Andrew Marr: politics done differently, tax, welfare and Number 10 North, 2 Jul 2026
Pending“we struggled, let's say, and full respect to the Congo, Democrat, Republic of Congo”Procedural: A remark about England's World Cup match, in reply to a light-hearted question. · LBC interview with Andrew Marr: politics done differently, tax, welfare and Number 10 North, 2 Jul 2026